MEDEV

School of Medical Sciences Education Development

Because has quite a lot to do with diff oer project keen to see what was happening with that project, Institutionally you can feel quite isolated. Lots of OER action in Nottingham, but we are on separate campus so can feel isolated. Wanted to share ideas with other people. We had had questions around storing gory images to get some ideas on that

First experience in parallel with BERLIN project – was quite sceptical. But this was my conversion. Prior experience was with wikivet which isn’t truly open. Better to be leader than follower. Giving back to profession I work in and might b=get something back. Have ben on one day conference in London (RIBA). Post berlin got involved with Xerte and Xpert – got sent email about xpert – Oh my god that’s amazing! Was involved in OVAL project and now looking in last call so looking to get involved in Nottingham bid.

Was sceptical because I didn’t really understand what it meant, everyone when they first discuss it – why should I give them to anyone else? In our profession until quite recently everything was quite secret. Things seem to have changed and that’s not the way I work. If someone asks me for my communcation skills materials, I say yes, and can I have yours too! Its about us as a community sharing stuff – what’s the point in reinventing the wheel 7 times? The arguments from schools are usually about giving away IPR. Its very unlikely any of us have created anything from scratch really – all based on other stuff. RVC very pro-OER – well actually this is the way to go, 5-10 years time things will automatically open. Publishers being naïve – books aren’t the way forward. Getting out a book is a bizarre thing for students to do. iTunes model is way forward – 49p for access to a chapter is something students feel comfortable with. Tablet type devices much better for reading books on.

Learned a lot about copyright and IPR – really useful reinforcement and presentation of dry material was entertaining. I don’t now how people will get prosecuted but someone is going to publish something as OER and it will have copyrighted materials in it. Get it sorted now and start afresh. Got to have a bottom up approach – hard to change existing stuff, but creating new materials is easy once you make that choice not to use anything that’s not CC licenced. How little other teachers know about consent and those sort of issues. Someone was talking about gaining consent – junior doctors HAVE to know what informed consent is, and adding this type if consent in is doable. If we can stand in RSPCA practice - and half the people there cant even read – students there manage to get informed consent, so it shouldn’t be too hard in other contexts.

Learning from others and seeing how it might head in the future. Starting to see where I am going to get things back from it. Since we set up our image database I have had someone emailing me to say I am using your pictures would you like some of ours. People worry about criticism of what they have dome with learning objects or teaching materials – I have certainly found it easier to donate images rather than whole sessions. That’s part of the issue, they care about where its going to go and who’s going to look at it. Lecture capture presents some problems…. (OER) encourages improvement in quality in teaching – as with all big HEIs some teaching is sloppy, but must get good student feedback to encourage that improvement.

Started VPs virtual vet hospital in open part of wikivet, images database online, recreating resources with only open cc licenced materials/teaching sessions. Try and do everything through expert if I can to get the attribution.

These are definitely changes I will carry on with. Colleagues starting to ask what the black strip in under the picture – it makes other people think about it as well.

Probably only a couple directly – my plan is for when we launch vet hospital – I’m hopeful that will highlight it to members of staff. I will probably do a presentation in staff meeting. It s a difficult thing to publicise, I can talk about how to use Xerte and Xpert – but I couldn’t give your lecture on copyright, but I can use = it s very easy to pick it. On a wider profession basis, we had a vet ed symposium in July – massive push on Creative Commons, Xerte and Xpert. It opened people’s eyes to sharing – very friendly environment. The theme was innovation – and I talked in the final keynote about sharing and why its good to give things back. It was really well received.

The next proud of funding will be very interesting to see what they fund. The publishing thing will be a big thing and is important Micro – it’s about flooding the market. What’s quite interesting you think why don’t I just join in and then you have a choice of stuff, as more stuff is out there you get more choice – supply and demand.

People think photos they take in clinics are theirs, they aren’t they are the Universities. I don’t think they are having a massive impact yet, as wikivet and VPs get more students using them – student pressure will make you make you own stuff better – it will gradually improve the quality of the student experience. I wonder if JISC should fund OER champions in each HEI – or each school – they really helps influence other people’s actions.

There’ll always be one or two people who do really well, and the rest will carry on doing what they are doing, It’s about more publicity. Small grants work. It’s probably wrong to pay people for OER but you absolutely have to do it – the money change behaviour about usable resources. We need easily usable tools - the toolkit will refine and get better. Making it feel like its worthwhile. OER activities would be viewed in a positive light as far as promotion is concerned in my HEI, this should be championed more.

Social media – thanks to you some other people I have spoken to – blogs, Twitter etc NOVICE project useful for file sharing and things, but didn’t change use of social media – seeing what happens with titter with people responding and pointing to you stuff. Didn’t really understand Twitter at all – now I understand hashtags and how they work I get loads of interesting things from Twitter students don’t use Twitter – only way to give them a Facebook wall to follow. I want to set up a FB book page they can like ad get stuff from there because they get fed up with emails.

Our involvement mainly with OOER? I want to give own students the best opportunity they can have I want the best doctors and dentists that we can have. We have been in existence since 1992 so a lot of time by people generating and delivering content, We went through a phase of trying to sell content. Not successful – profit was about 50p. The feedback was very positive in the 1990s. The market research suggested people were keen to purchase in reality that was viable. In parallel, I have always wanted to get best value and at the dame time the aim of always giving the students to be the best that they can. That seems to be through sharing rather than the commercial model. I have always looked to make our materials available. Patient confidentiality and IPR make making them globally open more challenging.

Critical review of medical curriculum has taken place recently, dental school since 2008, so started thinking is there an opportunity in revising and reviewing our content, why don’t e take the opportunity to see if we can make this material available. This competes against other calls on our time.

Wanted to be involved in OOER as it was timely, and I knew we would get lots from our involvement, which we did.

The fact that was done has been incredibly useful for us and we need to go on drive it forward.

Great success when there was a desire thru Scottish institutions to revise child health teaching, we built eLearning which was shared amongst all Scottish institutions, we have also been involved with IPE , e.g. working with Robert Gordon University. Was fantastic experience at the time. Was positive benefit to everyone and a good test of can we share and the answer in Scotland was yes.

We support IPE with Robert Gordon – good model about us sharing what we have and working in a way to make that relationship happen and flourish. I am also fond of an excellent relationship with St Andrews, we were without any charge giving them some of our materials. They have gone through changes, just recently this month they got back in touch they are in a new building with new it infrastructure, and want to share resources. If we can deal with then we can deal with Scottish then UK then word freebies! Global benevolence!

Because we aren’t doing it on a big scale is hasn’t attracted much attention internally, but I can see us being asked why we are giving away IPR. We have to put in extra effort to make sure we are legally compliant and not breaching patient confidentiality. We have to put extra time in to do this, but we should be doing anyway. I think its time well spent. We are cognisant we have to engage and it has to be something the HEI wants to do.

I am in the process of bringing stakeholders on board – so far so good.

From OOER: we learned an awful lot. Big picture really helped us anticipate and visualise the issues – not problems, but issues we were going to have to address. Gave us good coherent structure we had to go through. Lindsay came up and his time was really useful – it was developing a process we didn’t have and giving us a greater insight into how the process should be formed.

At Aberdeen level we took the time to think things out – relating the question to individual resources.

In addition we tried to work out the name and swim lanes – what do I do? Who do I ask? What if contributors work in different places? Who sends email? Where is responsibility.

We integrated the tools we needed with localised processes we needed to go through. We aren’t gong to go backwards, we are moving slowly but surely forwards.

OOER – biggest take home message - do it properly.  I already knew I wanted to do this but I knew I had a lot of stuff to do to do it properly. Almost able to lift the proper process and apply it internally.

Everything is rightly curriculum driven. We are going through medical curriculum review on a year-by-year basis. Years 1,2,3 and phase 4 and 5 yet to go through the process. Traditionally what has happened is people say I want to make eLearning application on the heart, we say OK say why and how eLearning is going to help. We go through well-defined process. Now there is additional process – who is audience and potential audience? Is it of relevant to global healthcare audience? Do we have your permission Professor X to release this to the world? If they say no – UK, then Scotland, then only locally. We need to strengthen that process, but we are at the stage where we have initial process in place, detailed legal process yet to come. In the meantime we aren’t letting this hold any other developments up. There are still people to engage.

We have invoked new process and we will be invoking more to allow us to share if all the stakeholders in the HEI are in agreement.

We have a service model, so we encourage medics and dentists to come to us as we are developing material, and we go through the tools with them. They come in the medical unit and we go through the tools and process, we brief them as to the intention of making materials open. Some are really enthusiastic and just want to make it happen. My cunning plan is that we are fortunate to have clinical teaching fellows, who are taking a year out to get experience of eLearning in some cases. Then they go back to practising medicine I want to try to secure eLearning clinical teaching fellow to get feedback as contributor and give us ideas about how the process has been for them and what would make the process easier. If they would like to enhance the process and make it easier for other colleagues than we encourage the. What can we do better? I am hoping to get buy in from them from user perspective and enhancement of processes. This will be funded by us locally – then I want to share that information with everybody involved in haring. If I share with them we can learn from others.

Some are common issues and some are local

Common time and resource need to make the business case. Desperately do not want to miss the golden opportunity to do the best for our students.

Locally we have a great system – but it so cool because very granular, it collects very localised feedback – need to work out how to delocalise it. Short term – all the pages will work but feedback ones to students not on Aberdeen campus. I would like to think e.g. Newcastle could use our resources, reconfigured locally. Here is a service you can get on to for free, we take the bandwidth hit, you can figure all the rest out like authentication and feedback. This is a big ask. Might not happen globally, might be e.g. St Andrews – swapsies.

Potentially a huge impact, not much yet. I hope it will rekindle the spirit I know exists certainly in Scotland, if A is thinking of revising curriculum and so is B – Deans and higher up look at each others material. Good ideas need to be timely, and ideas will resurface when the time is right.

Impact on time and resource can be severe – when we reach a state of being uncomfortable, and at a critical point, then it becomes more critical to spend that time and resource.

Engagement – ignoring resource and money – keep that engagement going. Keep the level of service. Yes these guys genuinely are engaged with us. I have genuine faith in the team  - you broker the exchange. It makes the whole process easier and faster. You bring together the opportunities. I turn to the team – it’s a key part of the jigsaw. Newcastle and HEA people are key to get relationships working. Same aspiration and need to make a difference. It has to happen.

I want to be involved! I want to see you guys having the resource to take this further – otherwise we break something which is working. Everybody will benefit in many ways if we can drive forward open access. Everyone will win. Locally I have to keep looking at process – still identifying stakeholders, and need to take it forward with the HEI. We are now ready to move on to the institutional phase.